I believe there are large scrap chunks out there. Ones that start in the bils then break down from there due to partial use.

Kay, after a couple searches I finally found that it was briefly mentioned 8 pages into ONE thread in the dev notes forum. Now I know how I missed it... except now I remember seeing it and never getting the impression they were very serious about it.

If there were others, I was just using the wrong search terms. Give me links or it never happened

How does this affect engines, shields and electrical systems? Do these reduce in durability as well? if so i would strongly advise that they do not. a shield with 10% of it's normal stats or an energy that can no longer regen your shields is a ticket waiting to happen when preyed on in piracy. or stuck in deep perilous.

when your that stuck in perilous guess its time for the tow in sol ;b

I believe that a certain percent of commodities should still drop on death.

And, yeah, you can always tow on death.

IF you are really planning to keep this, poorly thought out system, in the game next week you need to add:

1) All AI kills drop spare parts that can be used to repair a player's gear. Dropped spare parts could have a tech level and be used to repair equipped gear up to that tech level. Lower level spares can be used to jury rig repairs at a loss of performance.

2) Spare parts are stored in a special service bay and take no hull space, but the service bays may be size limited to how many spares they can hold. Additional spares can be carried in the normal ships holds.

3) Hull plating that increases the hull integrity depending on the type of material used and the tech level of the plating. Ships with high level of Hull Integrity will offer more protection to equipped gear when the shields are knocked out.

Also see my posting here: http://www.starsonata.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=48641

It's not a bad idea for spare parts to be a drop from AI you kill. After all, their gear is getting damaged too. That will also insure that the parts are always plentiful when you need to stock up on some.

Maybe this is thinking too far ahead, but perhaps there should be a way to condense parts...

I think you are overcalculating mr calculator. Everyone just chill and let the new system establish before we try and fix it

Jeff alludes to it here. If you read the last post (mine), you see that I refer to a previous conversation that is no longer available on the forum. It ran several pages and fleshed out many possible alternatives to the gear glue system. To jog your memory, Jeff suggested in that thread that people be able to neurobind their gear in order to keep it from dropping, along with a bunch of other ideas.

That thread definitely didn't wrap up with a firm pronouncement that we'd get rid of GG, but the two sources we have dug up (and perhaps others) indicate that it was indeed in the works.

I effectively agree that the old GG system should remain the same - this repair ship parts is STUPID - not at all impressed - I am sure a lot of people agree the GG and CG system is better - nobody wants to have to stop at an AI base in Pspace and continually repair their ship - Especially with slaves - that would get just plain annoying - therefore I see no point in changing a system that has been working for the longest and people were happy with it.

PS..... Fix items in AI base - they are showing up double and the "ALL" tab is not working - I think since the ALL tab is not working - that is why items are showing up double - and make "Seer's Orb" appear in Shadow's AI base again trying to start Seer missions here people.

well you should in theory be stopping less as you dont even start losing durability for what is it 5 kills? i dont recall ever having more than 5 gg on my slaves to go peril

Demon Spawn, do you carry more than 10 gear glue on your slaves? If not, then you've already been stopping at AI bases in Perilous space at least as frequently as you will now. Ditto for your main ship.

In case you are missing the point, it takes 10 deaths for your equipment to start working less effectively, and that's assuming CG has no effect at all (which it will).

To Cyg: you will have little trouble carrying a few repair pieces around instead of the customary GG, and on an uber run I'm sure you will be able to buy a few from a well stocked support character. Since you seem to have been paying zero attention when this was originally discussed, it doesn't matter how infrequently someone runs out of gear glue and loses an expensive item. The point is that the variance of the cost of death is way too high in the GG system, even though the expected cost is tolerable. High-variance costs are what make people ragequit.

Back when I used to do Brute Force with a Phantomstream, I would generally fly back with about 3k shields. Please tell me you have more than 30k bank on your main ship. At any rate, there will be an elective towing system that you can avail yourself of if you truly find it impossible to get to any AI base and also have zero repair doodads on board, AND you manage to die at least 18 times (no crazy glue the whole time) without a chance to visit an AI base.

The one drawback I can see to the repair system is that it's unclear where to acquire spare parts, other than actually killing somebody. They should be available for purchase from AI bases and/or drop as semi-occasional loot from random AI. I'm willing to wait and see how well players drive the market but it may need some stimulation in order to function properly. Perhaps parts should be added to AI bases every time they are used on the fly, as well as when they are actually sold.

what about the trade slave griefers? how will the new system affect those? wasnt there some rule put in about weaps disconnecting if a gg wasnt used or somesuch? I'm talking about those players that just kill trade slaves with no real losses, using NB weapons, wont they lose even less in this system? they will be able to get back in and carry on killing TS