I think that each launcher should have a standard recoil for each missile, say, two seconds, and the limits on missiles should be removed so you can launch as many as you want at once. Then there would be less reason to spam them; at the very least you could get the same DPS minus missiles lost at any range. Missiles should also have an "arming time", sorta like thoraxes except they just wait for that amount of time before they can blow up at all.

That way it's encouraged to be at least a little bit further away from the target, and once you're a little bit away it doesn't matter what range you're at.

Y'know?

Awesome idea, that makes it perfect. Of course, people would probably still sit on them, but you could have cool ways to compensate for that...concussion missiles, perhaps; blow them off you and then open op on them while they're still spinning. Would make being on top of you be the last thing they want to do.

Ick, formulas. Missiles just for concussion, heh, Sol might be fun if those don't cost all that much. Sitting in place? Screw that! You're going to be in deepspace when you come back from being afk! Ha!

-Charge time for missiles, I don't like it. Maybe SOME missiles can have that but as far as I know, missiles are generally charged/assembled before being mounted anything. Pulse engine piercing missiles for the win.

-Infinite missiles, uh oh. Last for 4 minutes on a gunner, right? +Can still spam them = fun use of SDs. If you don't see where I'm going with long lasting missiles and a class that can dodge... (you'll never know)

-I don't like formula based damage involving time from launch, Juxes, maybe. Same thing with my opinions on missile charging
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So, current issues being:
1. Missiles spamable
2. Inbuilt launchers sometimes bad thing

We must solve these through debate immediately!
Step One: Indentify sources of problems
#1 Fire rate can be dropped very low with multiple launchers. When the missile hits another can immediately be launched.
#2 Shawn, this is yours. You're the gunner here. Give us a detailed comparison between the standard and inbuilt ones.

Honestly, missiles dont NEED even two minute lifespans. Sixty seconds gets a missile 7500 distance, if it needs to go further than that you're doing something wrong.

So here's what I'd do;

Cut missile lifespan in half, and uncap the number of missiles out at once.

Give the majority of missiles an arming time; they will need to be out for between one and two seconds before they explode.

Create a new line of close range defense missiles that have decent knockback on their target, decent damage, but probably only about half as much as normal missiles. Idea being to get the enemy off of you and then use normal missiles. This encourages a more tactical approach.


The result, hopefully, is a gunner that now can fight, and is actually encouraged to fight, at a slightly larger distance. Assuming they fire their missiles correctly, there should be no reason their missiles will not be able to reach a target even multiple K's away.



A caveat to this, however; there are places, notable with splash lasers, that will make the use of missiles at range quite useless. Something should be made to avoid this problem. I'm thinking of an item that only runs when the bank is at 100% that gives a missile something like 99% resistance to damage. This would make point defense weapons useful, as well; they would be able to destroy a missile the best, because they can keep a constant barrage of bullets on it.

This would make gunners far more effective versus snipers, of course, but i think that's just fine.

i like their timing...gives you a chance to maneuver the ai into the line of fire

I like 20 second lifespan and unlimited missiles and unlimited launcher's equippable.

Just because you said something doesn't mean I can't like my own opinion. Cause I'm stuck up like that.