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Main: Demiser of D
Level: 4 Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:46 pm Posts: 5424 Location: Listening to Fire On High, best song ever. |
Except the level 2k forgies are about 5x stronger than MF picks
Their shields are insane comparitively speaking. They're almost as bad as a GB, and they have waay more DPS. _________________ JeffL wrote: That's it. I quit! Battlecruiser23 wrote: Fuck you, Cygnus. |
Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:36 pm |
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Rank: Peon Main: Evade Level: 5731 Joined: Wed May 26, 2010 7:51 pm Posts: 3829 |
Demiser of D wrote: Except the level 2k forgies are about 5x stronger than MF picks Their shields are insane comparitively speaking. They're almost as bad as a GB, and they have waay more DPS. GBs have worse shields |
Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:00 pm |
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Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:53 pm Posts: 696 Location: South-Western Germany |
Not really, but GBs don't have really any shield regen.
I did only measure out a few GBs lately - the now seem only to have ~120k shield bank (vs. like ~ 300k in '07). MF 3 Forgones (lvl 2k nowadays) - lets just say as Seer you deal with them just as you deal with MF ones (shield bank wise). |
Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:49 pm |
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Rank: Officer Main: Jeff Bobbo Level: 2700 Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:19 pm Posts: 5138 Location: Not where you are right now |
Low level AI swarming is a bitch.
I mean the Greeseballs and Meanies swarming, also the Seraph swarming. I've seen swarms of at least 15-25 Greeseballs and/or Meanies at once. It's just not cricket. _________________ Javatech wrote: Battlecruiser23 wrote: I am a Troll, ignore everything I say. JeffL wrote: Are you kidding me? Our C2 music is way better than that boring garbage you linked. |
Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:28 pm |
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jeff mc beth wrote: Low level AI swarming is a bitch. I mean the Greeseballs and Meanies swarming, also the Seraph swarming. I've seen swarms of at least 15-25 Greeseballs and/or Meanies at once. It's just not cricket. The 'balls arent too bad. Meanies are brutal until lvl 200, which by then is pointless. Seraphs....I swear, I fought 40 of em on my lvl 50 FC alt. was a 1shot kill on all my ships, and I had FC skills at 5 and Zobis with 10k shields. Cmon, thats unrealistic standards, to fight 40 seraphs. |
Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:35 pm |
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jeff mc beth wrote: Low level AI swarming is a bitch. I mean the Greeseballs and Meanies swarming, also the Seraph swarming. I've seen swarms of at least 15-25 Greeseballs and/or Meanies at once. It's just not cricket. Make other AI swarm. SBG swarms... Slumberchrome swarms... Forgone swarms... Pick swarms vulture swarms wattage swarms GB swarms Drop swarms Rat Swarms... (i mean wut) _________________ http://angelicneo.mybrute.com =Neo= |
Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:37 pm |
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Neolation wrote: jeff mc beth wrote: Low level AI swarming is a bitch. I mean the Greeseballs and Meanies swarming, also the Seraph swarming. I've seen swarms of at least 15-25 Greeseballs and/or Meanies at once. It's just not cricket. Make other AI swarm. SBG swarms... Slumberchrome swarms... Forgone swarms... Pick swarms vulture swarms wattage swarms GB swarms Drop swarms Rat Swarms... (i mean wut) Sod off. Its grand for uber high levels, or uber midlevels out for easy fast leveling, but then noobs will get ganked 24/7. Plus the fact ive ran into like 6 BGs 2 GBs 3 wattages 4 Drops a shitton of Forgs and picks in 1 gal before, if there was bigger groups, more fun, but more death to nubs! |
Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:48 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:43 pm Posts: 1352 |
As an offshoot to Wattages, SAL noticed why GBs ceased to give drops.
Fixed for next patch. (This is in this thread as it is due to their Tech level, and didn't deserve a new thread) |
Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:34 pm |
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Rank: Officer Main: ahileus Level: 3759 Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:06 am Posts: 912 |
2 years ago i could kill 3 GBs with my zebra solo, now i can kill only 1. or they got beefed or admins didnt calculate balance sheet correctly.
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Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:30 am |
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over 9000!
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Rank: Councilor Main: Churchill Level: 5620 Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:36 pm Posts: 11706 |
GB's have low ROF. Timing NORMAL Blockers to block the damage, or Adv if you have enough reducing the damage done to you. They do roughly 10k to an Izer, 5k or less to any zerkers(IA20), about 15k to capships(no resist augs), 5k or less to LF's(not a panther).
GB's have ~175k bank, which is lower than the normal level 1500 FC/Gunner Capship. It's the fighters that get to most people because they now are in the CC, blocking a lot of damage, so overtime, the Damage from the GB's add up. The fighters also deal laser damage, so using Hazard Ultras don't work. _________________ Salt Assault drew this conclusion from the latest devblog. [img]http://oi62.tinypic.com/33208ex.jpg[/img] |
Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:56 am |
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Rank: Officer Main: Jeff Bobbo Level: 2700 Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:19 pm Posts: 5138 Location: Not where you are right now |
Battlecruiser23 wrote: about 15k to capships(no resist augs) Means I die in less than 20 shots... I can tank more than that. XD _________________ Javatech wrote: Battlecruiser23 wrote: I am a Troll, ignore everything I say. JeffL wrote: Are you kidding me? Our C2 music is way better than that boring garbage you linked. |
Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:01 pm |
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over 9000!
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Rank: Councilor Main: Churchill Level: 5620 Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:36 pm Posts: 11706 |
jeff mc beth wrote: Battlecruiser23 wrote: about 15k to capships(no resist augs) Means I die in less than 20 shots... I can tank more than that. XD Are you an average level 1500? _________________ Salt Assault drew this conclusion from the latest devblog. [img]http://oi62.tinypic.com/33208ex.jpg[/img] |
Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:17 pm |
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Rank: Officer Main: RoflWaffle Level: 4271 Joined: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:06 pm Posts: 779 |
Battlecruiser23 wrote: jeff mc beth wrote: Battlecruiser23 wrote: about 15k to capships(no resist augs) Means I die in less than 20 shots... I can tank more than that. XD Are you an average level 1500? what do u define as average? its not like jeff sits and just makes builds in his head ALL DAY, he plays the game and figures shit out like a normal person, and is level 1521. i would call him an average 1500 _________________ I am the original Mikkel. Nothing I say on the forums is to be reflected upon the ingame Mikkel, as I no longer own that character. |
Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:00 pm |
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over 9000!
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Rank: Councilor Main: Churchill Level: 5620 Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:36 pm Posts: 11706 |
He's a Gunner Dread with ACAL's and a 30b aug setup with enough Resonating gear to get 300k bank, and thats not his only char at 1500+.
An average is one who lacks any other char at 1500+, has a ship setup of under 20b, and has only been around for 2-3 unis. _________________ Salt Assault drew this conclusion from the latest devblog. [img]http://oi62.tinypic.com/33208ex.jpg[/img] |
Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:04 pm |
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Rank: Officer Main: RoflWaffle Level: 4271 Joined: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:06 pm Posts: 779 |
Battlecruiser23 wrote: He's a Gunner Dread with ACAL's and a 30b aug setup with enough Resonating gear to get 300k bank, and thats not his only char at 1500+. An average is one who lacks any other char at 1500+, has a ship setup of under 20b, and has only been around for 2-3 unis. what the fuck makes that average bro? by that definition theres like 5 average people in the game... _________________ I am the original Mikkel. Nothing I say on the forums is to be reflected upon the ingame Mikkel, as I no longer own that character. |
Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:05 pm |
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