And please, please look at moral emphasis's? xD

I mean, seriously? 6k thrust on a 300 size engine? (Giga ME) It could be a really nice option for snipers if it were done correctly.

Do you see the problem here. We are comparing a common drop that you know exactly where to find it to an extremely rare drop from high end DG's. And the common drop is three times better.

Personally I have found that a vis of 50-100 is low enough. You can be seen if you move with people too close but as soon as you stop thrusting the vis will drop fast.

Ok, that's cool. I can agree with this.

You cant expect a engine with very high thrust/turning and also very low vis. Once you get below 100 vis it will start effecting other stats.

I cannot agree with this. Snipers need to move just as much, actually MORE than many other classes do. Zerkers simply need to fly up to their target and fire, a sniper is CONSTANTLY on the move, moving into places to fire their shots more accurately. In fact, i've found that as my thrust and turning go up, the more active i become and the more fun i have. If i have little thrust and turning, i'm more likely to just sit in one place and wait for the AI to move to where i want them to move, rather that actively attempt to position myself into the place that puts them there.



You are also comparing a low vis engine to a high vis engine. Serengeti gear counts as high end tech 20 gear while the Giga ME is just tech 19.

Serengeti gear is common as shit t20 gear, a lion thruster costs maybe 1b? Everyone has them. I've seen many drop...i've NEVER seen a giga moral emphasis drop. Ever. They're drops from DG's that take longer than uber runs to clear, and its nearly twice the size. One tech level and a few hundred visibility should not make an engine have 1/3rd the stats, its just stupid!

Im hoping you have read Jeff's post though. The formula for low vis engines is getting changed which will result in a beef to stealth engines.

This does make me happy, though i dont like stealth classes being forced into choosing 2-3 out of dozens of engines.

I cannot agree with this. Snipers need to move just as much, actually MORE than many other classes do. Zerkers simply need to fly up to their target and fire, a sniper is CONSTANTLY on the move, moving into places to fire their shots more accurately. In fact, i've found that as my thrust and turning go up, the more active i become and the more fun i have. If i have little thrust and turning, i'm more likely to just sit in one place and wait for the AI to move to where i want them to move, rather that actively attempt to position myself into the place that puts them there.

Serengeti gear is common as shit t20 gear, a lion thruster costs maybe 1b? Everyone has them. I've seen many drop...i've NEVER seen a giga moral emphasis drop. Ever. They're drops from DG's that take longer than uber runs to clear, and its nearly twice the size. One tech level and a few hundred visibility should not make an engine have 1/3rd the stats, its just stupid!

i dont like stealth classes being forced into choosing 2-3 out of dozens of engines

I try to stay somewhat still as much as I can and instead waiting for the AI to get in position I do certain things to get them in position.
If you wish to move around a lot you will probably want to use a much lower vis engine then I need but be prepared to have worse stats.

What you're saying is that if i want to move around, i cant do it well, but if i dont want to move around, i CAN move well. How does that make any sense?