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Author:  Bastamental [ Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:51 am ]
Post subject:  Major C2 Issue

EDIT: I would like to discuss some problems that I have been having with my seer. Within c2 there are many severe characteristic changes to the stealth system that has severely affected the seer class in particular. Although im not certain to what those changes are, it seems to be along the lines of overpowered detection compared to ss1

Given that im not a dev or have any basic knowledge to the nature of the coding, I have no clue what the possible problem can be, all I know is that:

1: I can always be seen or detected on radar [With an ultra low vis seer setup]

2: I no longer critical hit, it could be related to the fact that critical hit percentage comes from being concealed. I would say, without exaggerating, my critical hit percentage is about .1% given that I have only achieved a critical hit 2-3 times this whole c2 universe with hundreds of shots delivered, again, no exaggeration. So, theoretically speaking about 270% of seer's normal damage is out of the factor, if you include the average critical hit rate into the dps system.

3: [Side note] Fires are adding an incredible amount of visibility now, to the point were 1-3 fire/fires are placed and any zerk with a sost radar can see me.

I would like to shed some light on this, any thoughts as to what the problem is? Or is it best to send in a ticket for this issue?

P.S I testing on my gear, the problem is not on my part for gear/items.

Author:  Mail [ Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: C2 and Stealth

Bastamental wrote:
I would like to discuss some problems that I have been having with my seer. Within c2 there are many severe characteristic changes to the stealth system that has severely affected the seer class in particular. Although im not certain to what those changes are, it seems to be along the lines of increased vision to items that have base visibility.

So, what would normally be 1 vis in ss1 is somewhat closer to the detection power of 100vis.

Thus forth, seers have 0 vis [Or 0.1 for the critics] Yet have the actually something near the coded visibility of 50. This is a theory, which has very little basis of fact. Its just an idea.

Another puzzling problem: I cannot crit, the critical rate is somewhere near .001% when fully cloaked and non visible.

So, theoretically speaking about 270% of seer's normal damage is out of the factor.

I would like to shed some light on this, any thoughts as to what the problem is?

P.S I did plenty of testing, the problem is not on my part for gear/items.


I read that thing four times and I still don't get it...

How does 1vis = 100 vis, comparatively when 0.1 is close to 50? I hope enkelin rips you a new one for that giberish!

Time Warp

Author:  Battlecruiser23 [ Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: C2 and Stealth

Check the DS/Panther's reflectivity, and your cloaks' detection stealth %. I could detect my seer alt, but not see him.

Author:  Bastamental [ Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: C2 and Stealth

Summary: Visibility says 0, yet coding says 50-100, its just a theory to help explain the problem.

Churchil: Agreed, its detection thats the problem.

Author:  anilv [ Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: C2 and Stealth

I don't have a seer so I can't test this. If you are more specific with the kinds of tests you have run, it will be easier for others to believe and duplicate your results.

Author:  Bastamental [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: C2 and Stealth

Bump, this got edited/updated to the latest information I can come up with. Sorry for the late reply! My mom rushed me on the first post and ive been busy. :?

Author:  Bastamental [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Major C2 Issue

Ok, real bump.

Author:  THE Massif Destruction [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: C2 and Stealth

Bastamental wrote:
My mom


~ The fuck? Since when?

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